06NOV23- via Johan Klok - Live and Invest Overseas: Ecuador's safety problems are "way too broad a brush", "localized", and "temporary".
"I guess the Amelia and JP Stonestreet infotainment company will agree.
When a Popular Retirement Destination Goes South
Gang violence and drug cartels in parts of Ecuador offer a cautionary tale for prospective U.S. expats
For many years, the coastal South American country of Ecuador had it all for Americans considering retiring abroad: great weather, a low cost of living and beautiful beaches. Ecuador ranked No. 4 in International Living magazine's Best Countries to Retire Abroad in 2023.
In many parts of Ecuador today, however, it's a very different and scary story.
"Ecuador Was a Retirement Paradise for Americans. Then the Drug Gangs Arrived," The Wall Street Journal recently reported, noting that some U.S. expats have fled the country or plan to sell their homes. A New York Times headline read: "How Narco Traffickers Unleashed Violence and Chaos in Ecuador."
In his first speech as Ecuador's new president last week, Daniel Noboa said "tomorrow we begin to rebuild a country that has been severely hit by violence, corruption and hatred."
State Department Warning
The U.S. State Department has issued alarm bells, too.
The entire country of Ecuador now gets its Level 2 warning: Exercise Increased Caution. Lief Simon, who writes Live and Invest Overseas' Offshore Living Letter, says he takes that warning seriously.
Four areas in Ecuador have Level 4: Do Not Travel warnings, since U.S. government personnel are limited in their ability to provide emergency services to U.S. citizens there. Five other spots get this Level 3: Reconsider Travel caution: "Transnational criminal groups and local gangs have sporadically engaged in violent criminal activity in these areas, with violence increasing in recent months."
"People are out all the time every morning doing their thing."
To be sure, in many places around Ecuador — especially away from cocaine-transporting Pacific coast ports — people aren't trading beach umbrellas for bulletproof vests.
"Retirement Reimagined" expat writers (and Next Avenue contributors) Edd and Cynthia Staton love living in Cuenca, Ecuador, high in the Andes. They recently moved back there after investigating other potential locales around the world and just signed a four-year lease on their apartment.
In Cuenca, Cynthia says, "People are out all the time every morning doing their thing. I walk to yoga; we both walk to the gym. It's just daily life for us."
'Painting With Too Broad a Brush'
Kathleen Peddicord, publisher of Live and Invest Overseas (which chooses communities and regions, not countries, in its annual best places to retire abroad list), says: "Ecuador has historically been a very quiet, peaceful country really and that's definitely not completely the case right now. But I would not say that Ecuador is unsafe. I think that would be painting the whole thing with way too broad a brush."
Peddicord calls Ecuador's safety problems "localized" and "temporary."
While that may be true, the frightening life in certain parts of Ecuador offers a cautionary tale to Americans considering retiring abroad. It also shows the importance of researching a country and particular locations within it before relocating.
If choosing where to retire abroad merely based on a Best Places to Retire list from International Living or Live and Invest Overseas is the only research you do, "you shouldn't be going anywhere," says Dan Prescher, senior editor at International Living.
Research a Place to Retire
"Nothing really beats trying it out for yourself," by visiting a place before moving there, Prescher says. He also suggests joining local expat groups on Facebook, talking to people who live where you're contemplating moving and reading reputable news sources like The New York Times and The Economist.
"If you don't, you're being willfully ignorant," says Prescher.
Cynthia Staton thinks many prospective expats, like Americans generally, are unaware of goings on in nations overseas. "I think most people in the U.S. don't make it their business to find out a whole lot about other countries," she says.
Crime isn't even one of the Top 10 most important factors for Americans when choosing where to retire, according to a recent survey by the financial services firm Empower."
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a 9mm Taurus for say $1200.
a 9mm CZ for say $1500.
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'Always be prepared' - BSA & SA,
"When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns" - Louis L'Amour (1908-1988) Western novelist of ...
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MON 06OCT25 #ParoDay15#Ecuador #ParoNacional2025 #PUYO The community of Puyo, today marched against the government of Daniel Noboa. Strong repression and arrogance of the authorities is causing more and more sectors to join the National Unemployment protests. Today marks 15 days of protests." -
SUN 05OCT25 (11:03) #ParoDay14 #Quito #Ecuador Pres Noboa: "No one can come and take by force the capital of all Ecuadorians.
To those who choose violence, the law awaits them. To those who act like criminals, they will be treated as criminals.
We continue doing what is our duty: we will be in Pastaza tomorrow, together with those who truly build the country, helping those who need it most to produce more and get ahead." - (1/2)
"While some want to stop Ecuador, we propel it forward.
We will reduce the VAT to 8% during the holidays of October 9, and November 2 and 3, because this country is not going to grind to a halt because of a few who lost the business of smuggling and illegal mining.
To boost the local economy, on November 14 we will pay the thirteenth salary to public employees,
so families will have more money during Black Friday and Cyber Monday. We invite the private sector to join this initiative." - (2/2)
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